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| Jul 19, 2011 at 18:54 | comment | added | user8 | Commenters: if you like this answer, up-vote it: you don't need to leave a comment to +1 it. If you want to discuss this answer (and I hope you do), please do so in the place Pierre 303 mentioned. | |
| Jul 19, 2011 at 17:17 | comment | added | Christopher Mahan | Oh, and Steve Wozniak was working at HP when he designed the Apple 1. There's an interesting chapter on Wozniak in the book Founders at Work (foundersatwork.com/steve-wozniak.html) In there he says of HP: "...It's the best company because it's so good to engineers." (second answer of his on the page). | |
| Jul 19, 2011 at 17:10 | comment | added | Christopher Mahan | I would like to add that Henry Ford, the founder and president of the Ford Motor Company, built a working car in his garage. in 1896. He was an engineer by trade. See secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Henry_Ford . Also, similar story at HP. secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Hewlett-Packard | |
| Jul 19, 2011 at 15:27 | history | made wiki | Post Made Community Wiki by jkerian | ||
| Jul 19, 2011 at 12:40 | comment | added | user2567 | Please don't use comment system to chat. Consider the chat or continue the discussion here: meta.programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/1968/… | |
| Jul 19, 2011 at 12:36 | history | edited | Joonas Pulakka | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 19, 2011 at 11:16 | comment | added | Joonas Pulakka | @Aaronaught: This forum is not a scientific paper. Nobody, not you nor me, is going to provide an explanation for every single sentence he writes. You're only asking those for this answer because you don't like it. Apparently it hits the nerve, but how about disagreeing in civilized manner? As for startups beating big corporations, read e.g. just the two first sentences of product description from this: amazon.com/Radical-Innovation-Companies-Outsmart-Upstarts/dp/… | |
| Jul 19, 2011 at 11:01 | comment | added | Aaronaught | The entire thing? "Some people" - which people? "Especially management" - why assume that they are more likely to believe this? "Religiously imagine" - how are you certain that their beliefs have no basis in facts or logic? "Processes produce products?" - who exactly has made that specific claim and in what context? "Overdo the processes" - what precisely does that mean? "Business is in the hands of few geeks" - to what degree, and how so? "close their eyes / illusion of control" - explain? "agile startups... can beat big, established corporations" - do you assert that these aren't outliers? | |
| Jul 19, 2011 at 5:58 | comment | added | Joonas Pulakka | @Aaronaught: Which part(s) of my answer do you disagree with? How do you suggest improving it? If you require evidence from a subjective answer, do you have any counterevidence? I respect good criticism and want to improve my answers based on such, but your "criticism" has been absolutely non-specific complaining so far. | |
| Jul 18, 2011 at 16:23 | comment | added | Aaronaught | What, really, you don't think it's easy to get votes by telling people what they want to hear? Yes, to put it bluntly, I don't have a lot of respect for the mob that upvotes these undeserving answers. I guess I can't blame people like you for doing the absolute minimum when the community rewards that behaviour, but nevertheless, I wish people would at least try to improve their answers when criticized instead of stubbornly pointing to the upvotes as a justification. | |
| Jul 18, 2011 at 8:01 | comment | added | Joonas Pulakka | @Aaronaught: This answer is, obviously, a strong generalization of my personal perception, but it has 84 upvotes and 1 downvote, so it seems to resonate fairly well with other peoples' perception. You have full right to disagree with me and with everyone else, but criticizing such a well-received answer as "populist nonsense" without providing any actual counterarguments seems like mocking the community. | |
| Jul 17, 2011 at 21:18 | comment | added | Aaronaught | I really don't think that the onus should be on myself or anybody else to provide "better backed information" when criticizing an answer like this; you've made a very strong, broad, sweeping claim and presented zero evidence - not even anecdotal evidence - to back it up. It's unfortunate that a supposedly professional community is so easily swayed by this kind of populist nonsense. | |
| Jul 15, 2011 at 16:48 | comment | added | Michael K | While I'm certain there are some managers that do believe this, I submit that it's the exception rather than the rule. I personally think that smaller companies try be good at one thing, and that's how they beat larger companies: larger ones can't scale their specialization (Google notwithstanding). But there are many reasons. Blaming management doesn't change the situation. | |
| Jul 15, 2011 at 11:51 | comment | added | Joonas Pulakka | @Aaronaught: The claims I present here are obviously my perception (note that I'm not citing any references). If you have better backed information, please share it with us. | |
| Jul 15, 2011 at 11:27 | comment | added | Aaronaught | I'm wondering, is there evidence for any of the claims you present here? Are you a primary source (i.e. executive management)? Have you conducted or read interviews with them? It's very interesting how all sorts of replies saying "YES! RIGHT ON!" appear to be coming from people who have never been on the giving end and thus couldn't possibly vouch for the accuracy. I think it's important for us to distinguish answers which are actually true from those which developers (who are notoriously anti-management) would simply like to believe. | |
| Jul 13, 2011 at 11:35 | history | edited | Joonas Pulakka | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 13, 2011 at 11:26 | history | answered | Joonas Pulakka | CC BY-SA 3.0 |