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I have a collection of documents, which hold a subject id, a timestamp and a value. For example:

{ sid: 1, t: 3, v: "A" }    
{ sid: 1, t: 5, v: "B" }

Which means subject#1 is measured to have value A at t=3. Later, at t=5, value changed to "B". Only when a value is changed, a new document is inserted.

My goal is to keep the history of changes, and allow queries

  • for multiple subject IDs (or other fields not mentioned here) to get full histories or

  • for a subject and a timestamp for "value at that time".


Periodically I receive another set of documents containing various subjects and values at different times (t). Then I need to merge this new information to the existing data. Let's say I receive:

{ sid: 1, t: 2, v: "A" }
{ sid: 1, t: 6, v: "B" }    
{ sid: 2, t: 5, v: "C" }

Not every document in this new set gives me useful information. To explain:

  1. First one is useful because it lets me know a change had happened earlier than I thought, so I should use it. I'm trying to detect changes as early as possible:

  2. Second one is not useful because I already knew the value change from "A" to "B" happened at t=5, earlier than the new info.

  3. Third one is useful because I didn't have any info about subject#2 before.

So after the merge result should be:

{ sid: 1, t: 2, v: "A" }
{ sid: 1, t: 5, v: "B" }    
{ sid: 2, t: 5, v: "C" }

The new information arrives as a stream, about 2-3k docs/second. I can process it as a stream or in batches 15 minutes wide = 2.5M docs. Existing changes-data collection has hundred millions of docs.

New arriving data is not ordered in time, it can contain timestamps earlier or later than the existing data.

Easiest way that comes the mind is to query existing collection for every incoming document and see if a useful change had happened, but it would mean thousands of queries per second to the datastore (Solr).

Another way is to somehow detect which set of documents might potentially be affected by the new data and load it in one shot, revise it and write it back in one go. I couldn't figure out how can I determine those documents though.**

I tried to ask the question independent of any particular technology because I thought this design problem is independent from the tech stack too, but the changes data will be stored in Solr and I can run the aggregations in Spark. Another tech stack suggestions are welcome too if they can solve this problem.

I can also change the schema and the way data is represented in both existing and incoming data, if it can help solve this.

Do you have a design suggestion to this problem, or an answer to my starred ** question?

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    Goal is to keep a history of changes and query for multiple subject IDs (or other fields not mentioned here) to get full histories or query for a subject and a timestamp for "value at that time". Currently we are recording all incoming info and aggregating it to find "changes" whenever requested. Incoming info volume is high and it rarely signifies a change so aggregating over it takes a longer time than simply querying a "changes" table. Although a large part of the motivation is "customer wants it this way".
    – uylmz
    Apr 26, 2021 at 7:59
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    I took the freedom to edit the goal into the question, so other readers don't have to scroll down to this comment section.
    – Doc Brown
    Apr 26, 2021 at 10:43

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I think there's some potentially faulty reasoning here I'd like to point out. So, you say that if you have:

{ sid: 1, t: 3, v: "A" }    
{ sid: 1, t: 5, v: "B" }

then { sid: 1, t: 6, v: "B" } is redundant. That might be true.

But let's work through an example of when treating a non-change as redundant would be a mistake:

Let's say that we get that change not at t:6, but at t:7 instead: { sid: 1, t: 7, v: "B" }. And then later on we get { sid: 1, t: 6, v: "C" }.

Adding those two example changes to our two original changes (ordered by timestamp):

{ sid: 1, t: 3, v: "A" }    
{ sid: 1, t: 5, v: "B" }
{ sid: 1, t: 6, v: "C" }
{ sid: 1, t: 7, v: "B" }
// at t:8 sid:1 is B. This is correct

Adding those two changes again, but this time let's remove non-changes as they come in:

{ sid: 1, t: 3, v: "A" }    
{ sid: 1, t: 5, v: "B" }
{ sid: 1, t: 6, v: "C" }
<deleted before event at t:6 was known because it was a non-change from t:5>
// at t:8, sid:1 is C. Whoops. That's wrong.

The t:7 may have seemed like a redundant non-change at the time, but becomes important once that t:6 is known. If we had thrown t:7 away, t:6 would have fooled us into thinking the final value of sid:1 was C.

If there is a gap into which a new change can fit, we can't make a good decision on what is actually redundant with incomplete data.

In fact, the problem isn't just with gaps. If you're receiving data from a source you don't 100% trust to be consistent you also have a problem. Say first one gets { sid: 1, t: 6, v: "C" } and at some later time one gets { sid: 1, t: 6, v: "D" }. If the first had been thrown away as "redundant" then it becomes impossible to detect that the something weird is going on when the second comes in.

You may have noticed this is something I have given some thought. I've written some code using postgresql "temporal tables" similarly configured to not persist non-updates. An essential part of that code making sense was making sure events were processed strictly in order.

So it's probably only going to be possible to remove the "redundant" data either in your queries or in a read model you maintain and update from your store of changes. But that's a different problem, and I don't know your tech or use-case to say how to do that effectively or scalably.

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  • Thanks for pointing out my reasoning mistake! I'm really losing information when I discard { sid: 1, t: 7, v: "B" } because t=6 arrives later which makes it valuable. Then I guess it's not possible to do this without saving everything and aggregating changes as requested, or, the incoming data is always newer than the recorded data (ordered in time).
    – uylmz
    Apr 24, 2021 at 23:11
  • I forgot to point out that for my domain it's not possible to have both { sid: 1, t: 6, v: "B" } and { sid: 1, t: 6, v: "C" } because there can't be two different values at the exact timestamp.
    – uylmz
    Apr 24, 2021 at 23:12
  • I think I need to make this clearer. The example doesn't rely on timestamp collision, that was just an afterthought. Edited. Apr 25, 2021 at 11:41
  • @uylmz: If your application can rely on one source as a reliable source of information, then you can reduce the entries based on what that reliable source tells you. But designating a source as reliable is a business decision that hinges your application's correct workings on that assumption. Nathan is correct that if no source is deemed absolutely reliable, that any discarded information will potentially lead to missing data.
    – Flater
    Apr 26, 2021 at 10:49
  • @uylmz: That being said, the conclusion does sightly change if you stop using absolute values and instead use value changes (e.g. +20, -300, +85, ... like a bank account), but the overall idea remains that unreliable sources don't give you any guarantee about being able to reduce any entries.
    – Flater
    Apr 26, 2021 at 10:51

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