Timeline for Why is JavaScript not used for classical application development (compiled software)?
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| Jun 26, 2015 at 14:07 | comment | added | Ian Newson | Just adding my voice to the chorus of people stating that there are JavaScript IDEs. It's frankly silly to claim otherwise. You might not like the IDEs and they may not be perfect, but they're still IDEs. Or have I been imagining the intellisense and code completion of VS when working with JS? | |
| Mar 30, 2012 at 14:34 | comment | added | Giorgio | @Raynos: Same here: I use vim (gvim) for C, C++, Java, Scala, Pascal, Haskell, LaTeX or whatever code I have to edit. | |
| Mar 5, 2012 at 13:29 | comment | added | Raynos | @AlanB the point is, for JavaScript development it's less usable then eclipse, and eclipse is horrible for JavaScript. It's not a proper JavaScript IDE. | |
| Mar 5, 2012 at 8:20 | comment | added | Alan B | There's plenty of installed applications using it so it must be possible to do something useful ... a Linux application that needs some hacking? Whatever next! :) Here's the stack it uses: wiki.servoy.com/display/public/DOCS/Servoy+stack+info So basically it's all familiar stuff from the Linux world, the IDE is Eclipse-based with a form designer, database browser, source control (SVN) and the Javascript implementation is Rhino. You can open up the .js files outside it if you want, they're all there in the project folder. | |
| Mar 3, 2012 at 19:03 | comment | added | Raynos | @AlanB LOL, servoy developer is just a wrapper around eclipse. And it doesn't run properly on linux without hacking environment variables and it doesn't even allow you to open a folder of code or do anything useful :\ | |
| Mar 3, 2012 at 17:44 | comment | added | Raynos | @AlanB apologies, I'll download servoy developer althought I highly doubt it's better then WebStorm 4.0 (which isn't a proper IDE). | |
| Mar 3, 2012 at 17:36 | comment | added | Alan B | LOL away, doesn't change the fact that you were wrong when you said there were no JS IDEs with drag and drop GUI design, code-completion, etc. | |
| Mar 2, 2012 at 16:26 | comment | added | Raynos | @AlanB said: "servoy.com" to which I would reply LOL | |
| Mar 2, 2012 at 15:37 | comment | added | Alan B | @raynos said:"There is no IDE, there are no development tools, there is no auto-complete or "intellisense", there are no click and drag GUIs." to which I would reply servoy.com | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 19:51 | comment | added | John Tobler | @Raynos: That was included in my "... and the like ..." ;) V8 is not a native compiler; it has it's own VM and runtime environment. Still, it is technically a compiler. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 17:24 | comment | added | Raynos | @JohnTobler you forgot to mention V8. | |
| Aug 31, 2011 at 17:13 | comment | added | John Tobler | +1 to Raynos for referencing the Douglas Crockford article. Until recently, decent compilers were not available for JavaScript and that held back its application to desktop and server systems. That obstacle is somewhat behind us, with Jurassic, Rhino and the like now available, although we still seem to be lacking native code compilers. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 18:30 | comment | added | Raynos | @sylvanaar it provides a JavaScript IDE, it is arguable feature rich but it's buggy and get's in the way | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 17:38 | comment | added | sylvanaar | IntelliJ IDEA provides a rich Javascript IDE | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:48 | comment | added | Raynos | @sa93 go read the question again, you just answered it. "Why don't we use JavaScript for desktop applications" | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:46 | comment | added | Raynos | @PeterTorok VS is simply a broken IDE for javascript. There are no JS IDEs. I know. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:45 | comment | added | sa93 | Absolutely not, but Im not going to build a RIA frontend in Silverlight because I love Resharper and LINQ, or ASP.Net MVC app with a thin jQuery layer, because again its .Net friendly, when there are rich client side Javascript languages at hand that are better suited for the job. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:44 | comment | added | Péter Török | @Raynos, "I'm faster in vim then in VS2010. This means VS2010 is a leaky JS IDE." - or maybe this simply means that you don't know VS as well as vim. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:43 | history | edited | Raynos | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:43 | comment | added | Jose Faeti | @Raynos: you can be faster with other IDEs, but Visual Web Developer 2010 offers all the aforementioned common IDE features. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:43 | comment | added | Raynos | @sa93 Whatever development platform your using for your servers & native applications (whether it's C/C++/C#/Java/Ruby/Python) would you throw it away and write it all in JavaScript? Those of us in the web appreciate javascript is a powerful language, those outside the web treat it as a toy. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:41 | comment | added | sa93 | "It's simply fact that most developers still see JavaScript. " I love people who use the term "simply fact", most developers changed that perception 2-3 years ago - although i have a classification of a developer that might not align with yours. Ive seen this in the .Net space a lot, problem with .Net developers are that unless its supported by a fancy IDE with Resharper style kungfu they dont like it, where as a more rounded "developer" will happily work with the best tools, framework, languages for the tasks at hand. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:33 | comment | added | Raynos | @JoseFaeti sorry, Visual Studio is not a javascript IDE. I'm faster in vim then in VS2010. This means VS2010 is a leaky JS IDE. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:28 | comment | added | Jose Faeti | I agree with you except "There is no IDE, there are no development tools, there is no auto-complete or "intellisense", there are no click and drag GUIs." Actually you can get all that using many various IDE out there, I use Visual Studio for example and it's simply great. | |
| Aug 30, 2011 at 9:24 | history | answered | Raynos | CC BY-SA 3.0 |