Timeline for Did the developers of Java consciously abandon RAII?
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| May 11, 2021 at 11:07 | comment | added | Caleth | @jwenting I have no trouble with the implicit copy-constructors for all my types, even the implicitly deleted ones | |
| May 11, 2021 at 10:59 | comment | added | jwenting | @Caleth as stated, they're finnicky and error prone, usually more a pain than a cure | |
| Apr 18, 2021 at 11:38 | comment | added | Caleth |
@jwenting copy constructors are fine if you default to subobjects or unique_ptr instead of shared_ptr
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| Apr 18, 2021 at 6:00 | history | edited | Glorfindel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
broken link fixed
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| S Jan 10, 2019 at 17:20 | history | suggested | Andrew Keeton | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| May 16, 2013 at 8:41 | comment | added | jwenting | iow RAII was not "abandoned", it simply didn't exist to be abandoned :) As to copy constructors, I've never liked them, too easy to get wrong, they're a constant source of headaches when somewhere deep down someone (else) forgot to make a deep copy, causing resources to be shared between copies that should not be. | |
| May 15, 2013 at 3:35 | comment | added | kevin cline |
"No need for copy constructors" sounds nice, but fails badly in practice. java.util.Date and Calendar are perhaps the most notorious examples. Nothing lovelier than new Date(oldDate.getTime()).
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| Jul 13, 2012 at 1:29 | comment | added | supercat |
The using statement handles many cleanup-related problems nicely, but many others remain. I would suggest that the right approach for a language and framework would be to declaratively distinguish between storage locations which "own" a referenced IDisposable from those which do not; overwriting or abandoning a storage location which owns a referenced IDisposable should dispose the target in the absence of a directive to the contrary.
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| Nov 8, 2011 at 23:11 | comment | added | BlueRaja - Danny Pflughoeft | Also, nice links (especially the first one, which is highly relevant to this discussion). | |
| Nov 8, 2011 at 5:51 | history | answered | dan04 | CC BY-SA 3.0 |