Timeline for Will high reputation in Stack Overflow help to get a good job?
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| May 23, 2017 at 12:40 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Mar 7, 2012 at 19:01 | comment | added | orlp | @aF. I sure do. | |
| Mar 7, 2012 at 15:13 | comment | added | aF. | @nightcracker you like Python :P | |
| Dec 29, 2011 at 11:50 | comment | added | orlp | LOL, I'm 17 years old and I have 12.2K rep (and not just because of one insanely voted-up q/a). | |
| Sep 15, 2011 at 21:22 | comment | added | Jim In Texas | I wonder if Fog Creek would hire a high rep 50 year old programmer over a lower rep 25 year old, assuming both had the skills required for the position. Certainly many companies strongly prefer to hire a candidate within the windows of zero to 3 years of experience after college graduation. | |
| Feb 9, 2011 at 13:46 | comment | added | Tony | While not easy to get a high score, I wouldn't use just a SO score to determine the quality of a developer. This is for the same reason that I don't assume someone that has a MS MVP title is intelligent. The ability to regurgitate knowledge doesn't equal a good developer. Sorry but relying on one indication of skill is an amateur move at best. On a side note, While it doesn't occur often, it is funny to see someone answer get up-voted because of who they are or rep, even though it is wrong. | |
| Jan 17, 2011 at 22:29 | comment | added | user8685 | @Joel: Why don't we make it interesting? You hire every 5-digit SO-member who hasn't managed to find a $100K job. That would only seem fair right? | |
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| Nov 23, 2010 at 16:18 | comment | added | user3571 | I've been offered a 360K AED (about 100K USD) JSF job in Dubai ~2 months back by someone who found me on SO. So yes, it definitely helps. No, I declined it. Over a half of salary would be wasted to property and school expenses which aren't cheap for non-locals (expats). I've 2 children. One year private school is already over one full month salary per child. One year elcheapo property rental would already be at least 1/3 of year salary. Currently I'm happy enough with freelancing for US and Europe from home in a cheap country. | |
| Nov 23, 2010 at 13:28 | comment | added | CashCow | First nice to know I have found a site where Joel Spolsky posts having spent so long reading his blog in the past. I doubt myself that I would put my StackOverflow reputation score on my CV (never mind I use a strange alias here) or that anyone would take any notice of it. Aside, you just get reputation here by being quick on the button rather than giving the best answer. I missed out on a big score yesterday when someone beat me to posting exactly the same answer by a few seconds. | |
| Nov 23, 2010 at 10:40 | comment | added | sashang | The problem is recruiters. The majority of them haven't looked at Stackoverflow and they're too busy trying to match up keywords in a job description with whoever has the most of those keywords on their resume. | |
| Nov 23, 2010 at 8:33 | comment | added | Wok | @Thorbjørn: I am at 5,25 milliSkeet. Great measure. :) | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 23:50 | comment | added | user2567 | @Thorbjorn: lol I wish I could pronouce your first name :) | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 21:13 | comment | added | user1249 | @John Isaacks, you need to adjust for inflation. The only valid measurement of StackOverflow-karma is milliSkeet (I'm at 70). | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 20:24 | comment | added | Steven Evers | @Joel Spolsky: There should be great effort spent to spread the word. I've never met an employer who had any concept of what SO was, or what its significance is. Until then, Josh K is right. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 20:11 | comment | added | JD Isaacks | Wow, I am surprised to hear that a rep of 3000 is an indicator of a superstar programmer. I am at 3800 right now and have never considered myself to be a superstar. I thought the superstars were the guys with 50K+ | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 17:36 | comment | added | Stan R. | @Joel, I cannot agree more with your comment. I find that my best time of the day is spent on StackOverflow answering interesting questions. I am not saying I don't do work..in fact I do all of the work for a company that has no idea what WPF is (while I built a project entirely in WPF) and does not care for their developers, being undervalued and unrecognized is an understatement of my position. One of these day's I'll gather enough courage to apply for a StackOverflow developer position. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 17:04 | comment | added | Jeff Davis | @Joel What? You're not allowed to answer questions about you. We're talking about you, that means you can only listen. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 15:45 | comment | added | Greg | I got most of my rep from a [stupid answer][1]. I spend a lot of time answering old questions that never get voted up though, so I think it works itself out. [1]: stackoverflow.com/questions/1003841/… | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 15:28 | comment | added | rjzii | I think the background of the developer still has a lot to do with it though. I've got a reasonable high reputation on Stack Overflow (pushing 5,000) but I haven't seen it being of any use when applying for jobs. Granted some of my reputation is from silly things as opposed to firm technical questions and answers, but I don't see it as a huge help. Part of the problem might be due to being more of a scientific applications developer as opposed to a generalist developer - does tend to move the resume in a given direction. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 11:55 | comment | added | Sean Patrick Floyd | @Pierre303 hopefully I'll be there in a month or two, and then I'll tell you :-) | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 11:31 | comment | added | user2567 | @S.P.Floyd: and on page 10? | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 11:23 | comment | added | Sean Patrick Floyd | @Pierre303 and you don't even have to be a genius to get to page 100 | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 11:23 | comment | added | luis.espinal | @Joel - not every single employer out there (even the well payhing ones) is brilliant enough to recognize a SO user with a high rep is both underemployed and brilliant. Underemployed or not, it treads on questionable ethics to spend so much time IF an underployed developer spends so much time on SO while on the clock. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 11:20 | comment | added | user2567 | @S.P.Floyd: probably because being a technical genius is not enough. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 10:56 | comment | added | Sean Patrick Floyd | I would not agree to everybody on page 100 being great. I'm on page 16 and there are many people in that range whom I'd never hire. Perhaps having two gold tag badges for unrelated tags could be a sufficient indicator (I don't have any yet myself)? But apart from that I'd say: sure, it should be one of the things to put on a resume if you've got at least 10k rep. But hiring people for SO rep alone? Only the first 5 pages or so. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 7:21 | comment | added | Dan Ganiev | @Joel-Splosky Emm, Joel, are you underemployed to spend your day here? | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 5:59 | comment | added | Steven A. Lowe | @joel sadly, i've been so busy i've dropped to page 5. and jon skeet's rep is now 8.33 times mine. we were once so close... (not really!) | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 5:42 | comment | added | Sparr | I'm hovering around 3000th place, and it took me over 3 months of applications to get a single interview (which ended up being in IT, not programming), with about half my resumes mentioning my SO profile. Hiring is effectively random, any thoughts to the contrary are biased by inside information or undue influence. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 5:16 | comment | added | tzenes | @josh I wish you had written that in your answer "it's not a magic bullet" that's the real crux of the issue. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 4:35 | comment | added | Joel Coehoorn | I'm exhibit A. Was ranked #5 at one point thanks in part to poor work environment where I ended spending way too much time on SO. All that effort actually helped get me fired, but not before I'd earned an MS MVP award and found a new job that better uses my skills (was planning to put in my 2 weeks notice a week later, but I think they got wind of the new gig first.) Since then, I just don't seem to have near as much time for SO. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 4:13 | comment | added | John Sheehan | @rockinthesixstring But nothing to scoff at either. I would show that off to every prospective employer. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 4:12 | comment | added | Josh K | The question isn't "Are these great programmers" the question is "How does SO rank influence pay and employability". I think that how much reputation you have on StackOverflow is not an employability grade. That's what careers is for. Having a high reputation can't hurt, but it isn't a magic bullet. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 4:04 | comment | added | Chase Florell | Currently on Page 59... Prolly not gonna land me a $100k job :( | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 4:00 | comment | added | John Sheehan | Oh, I love my job! Not being hired by Fog Creek was probably the best thing that happened to me :) (composing an answer about how SO participation turned into that job....) | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 3:58 | history | edited | Joel Spolsky | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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| Nov 22, 2010 at 3:57 | comment | added | Joel Spolsky | i didn't say anyone would hire you, i just said you'll be in high demand ;) Besides, tell me with a straight face being developer evangelist for Twilio isn't a great job. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 3:54 | comment | added | John Sheehan | My 5-digit rep at the time I interviewed must not have been high enough for Fog Creek. I believe I was even on page 3 at the time. My point being, you have to admit you wouldn't hire every 10K+ Stack Overflow user, or I missed the part in my rejection email where I got the $100K offer. (I'm intentionally antagonizing you, I hope we're still friends :) | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 3:42 | history | edited | Joel Spolsky | CC BY-SA 2.5 |
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| Nov 22, 2010 at 3:40 | comment | added | Joel Spolsky | Spending your day on Stack Overflow implies that you are underemployed. These people spending their whole day on Stack Overflow would love to have a better, more interesting job. They're the perfect candidates. We hire them all the time (at Stack Overflow) and they stop earning reputation once we give them useful important work instead of the drivel their previous employer had them working on. | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 3:39 | comment | added | Joel Spolsky | "But Joel, who wants to hire someone who spends their whole day on Stack Overflow?" | |
| Nov 22, 2010 at 3:35 | history | answered | Joel Spolsky | CC BY-SA 2.5 |